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The first attempt at doing a border for the Tarot project.

Date: 2008-01-22 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harper-knight.livejournal.com
I may have asked this before and forgotten the answer, but are you using any of the conventions for the image on the cards depicting things about what the card means, besides the choices of characters you use for them? Things like how on most tarot sets, the Tower is lightning-struck or the top is falling, or both? (I know that in fact, for the Tower, you haven't got those conventions.) But are you using em for any of the others?

Not that they're necessary, One supposes the meaning is the same whatever, but the image gives a sort of.. feeling to the cards that gives a secondary meaning of sorts.

Date: 2008-01-22 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maximkovalenko.livejournal.com
In a number of places I am using the conventions, but I wanted a slightly different feel to them...I kinda wanted to stretch out a little to be honest, like instead of the High Priestess on a throne with pillars flanking her, Miko is on her wheelchair with the pillars behind her. Judgement is pretty close to convention (The angel even has the horn and the snow peaked mountains behind her) , as is the Star....The person I talked to with the Tower said that I could use the idea of it being surrounded by ruins to represent calamity.(But with the Clocktower of Erech, it's required that you use it ;) )

Of course Strength is pretty blatant (on a number of the cards I have seen, a lady is smashing a stone pillar)

Date: 2008-01-22 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maximkovalenko.livejournal.com
With a lot of them I was trying to go for aspects of the card that people don't discuss much as well (with Judgement, it was the idea of something coming out of the past)

Date: 2008-01-22 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harper-knight.livejournal.com
Oh, of course it's required that you use the Clocktower. It's just that awesome.

And yeah... I only know a bit about the Tarot myself. I've never had the chance to get my hands on a decent enough deck and someone who knows enough about it to teach me properly. It's just a vague interest currently, up there with ritual magic and so forth. Something to look into further when I have money to spend on books and cards and the other tools of the trade.

Date: 2008-01-22 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maximkovalenko.livejournal.com
I was only ever really interested in it from the artwork aspect myself....fortunately, I have a number of readers out there that have been very nice about educating me so I can get this thing right :)

Date: 2008-01-22 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harper-knight.livejournal.com
Ah, but the entire business of occultism is so interesting; at the least you learn a lot about your own assumptions about things, and some of the things the old masters have written are brilliant under all the hogwash they throw in to confuse people.

But I agree the artwork on Tarot cards is amazing in itself. I remember seeing a nice set by Luis Royo once; it has one of my favorite classic depictions of the Tower in it.

Date: 2008-01-22 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maximkovalenko.livejournal.com
Never saw the Royo one...there's a real good one of Micheal Whelan art I like a lot....

You can get a good look at it at

http://taroteca.multiply.com/photos/album/408/Michael_Whelan

Date: 2008-01-22 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harper-knight.livejournal.com
This one, in fact: ttp://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g238/leanan_ad/torre.jpg

Date: 2008-01-22 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maximkovalenko.livejournal.com
That is sweet....I like Royo, but you have a tendency to forget that he can do artwork other than mostly naked chicks ;)

Date: 2008-01-22 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harper-knight.livejournal.com
I always love to see what people do for the Fool. Sets the feeling for the whole set...

And Hah, the Seven of Wand in that set you linked above is the cover of... Sunrunner's Fire? yeah. Part of one of my favorite trilogies. Re-using artwork for Tarot. Naughty.

And haha, I have quite a few Royo images saved in my pictures directory. I wish I could paint like him. You have a problem with his hot naked chicks? :P

Date: 2008-01-22 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maximkovalenko.livejournal.com
No, but it's nice to see him do other things....like my two favorite cover art pieces he did (the covers of Hardwired and The Voice of the Whirlwind (which are both by Water Jon Williams)

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